Thursday, May 03, 2007

here's some much needed perspective on the war


Anonymous hee-haw said...

So you rightist haters think things are going just fine in Iraq becuase you see the conflict as a bug-zapper? Of course with the disclaimer that you want to see them stop killing each other as long as they give up their own faith and convert to your superstition (errr I mean your religion). Are you really blind to the fact that our actions, in reagrds to waging a terrible war sold on lies and propaganda, have fueled the terrorist movement and have created the terrorist that are now killing us?

As far as this silly theory that if we exit Iraq, the terrorist will follow us home, that has been refuted by many experts, including this:

Brig. Gen. John H. Johns considers that warning "propaganda" and that, according to Johns, "[i]t's actually leaving American forces in Iraq ... that increases the chances of a terrorist attack on the U.S." Welna also reported that retired Army Lt. Col. James Carafano, a research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, "calls asserting that terrorists will follow U.S. troops home naive and poor rhetoric." Welna then featured a clip of Carafano saying: "There's no national security analyst that's really credible who thinks that people are going to come from Iraq and attack the United States -- that that's a credible scenario."

In short Hondo, you guys are nuts.

7:13 AM  
Anonymous Robert L. Borosage said...

Each of Bush's signature failures -- the war in Iraq, Hurricane Katrina, Enron and the corporate scandals, failed tax and trade policies, the attempt to privatize Social Security, the posturing around Terri Schiavo and stem cells -- can be traced back not simply to the conservative ideology and ideologues that sired them -- but to the basic concepts that Reagan championed. The Gipper can't lead Republican candidates out of the wilderness because, to paraphrase, his conservatism is the problem, not the solution.

Over the last six years, with Bush in the White House, then-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay ramrodding the Republican Congress and Karl Rove focused on mobilizing the Republican base, conservatives have largely had their way. Bush pursued the core ideas of each strand of "movement conservatism" largely to catastrophic effect. In each case, he was largely implementing what Reagan had previously championed.

5:00 PM  
Blogger hondo said...

HeeHaw, you're awesome! You keep providing me with a living, breathing example of a liberaliar, and for that I'm grateful! Let's start talking about your lies.
1. You say that we Christians want the terrorists to stop killing each other, but only if they convert to Christianity. That's a lie. As a Christian, I would love for the terrorists to become Christians, but it's not a prerequisite for my wishing for an end to the bloodshed. The author of this article expressed the exact same feelings as I just did. You intentionally distorted his statements. You are a liberaliar.
2. You say that we have created the terrorists by "invading" Iraq. Would you please explain to me why there were 19 separate terrorist attacks committed by Islamofascists against America or against Americans abroad between 1979 and 2000 (4 during the Clinton years), but zero since 9/11? You're delusional, HeeHaw, and you are promoting a lie when you say that we have "created" the terrorists.
3. You mentioned Brig. Gen. John H. Johns as a "national security expert." Gen. Johns retired from the military in 1978 and is now a radical leftist occupying space in the world of academia. He doesn't know anything about today's military or today's defense issues. How typical that you would quote him.
4. You mentioned a quote from James Carafano. I don't know where you got that quote from. I suspect that it was created at some left wing blog, or maybe you just fabricated it yourself. Go to to see real quotes from Carafano.
5. HeeHaw, you say that I'm nuts. That may very well be true. My wife certainly agrees with you, but that's beside the point. The bottom line is that I have stated a position and I have backed up that position with facts, logic and reason. You have responded with easy-to-refute lies and delusion. Open your eyes and smell the coffee!

11:13 PM  
Blogger hondo said...

Robert, welcome to my blog! Please allow me to refute the lies in your comment:
1. The war in Iraq is not a failure. Well, not yet, anyway. Congressional liberaliars are still trying to lose, but they haven't succeeded yet. See for Gen. Patraeus' report from Iraq.
2. Hurricane Katrina was not a Bush failure. Corrupt city and state governments stole the money that Congress had earmarked for levee repairs and strengthening. A moronic city mayor failed to start the buses to evacuate his constituents. Thousand of New Orleans residents were too lazy and too stupid to get out of the way of a hurricane, even with all of the advance warning they received. None of that is Bush's fault. And by the way, why did liberals never criticize FEMA while Clinton was in office? Government reports show that it was just as dysfunctional in the 90's as it is today. Are liberaliars not concerned about government failures when the president is a liberaliar?
3. How is Enron connected to Bush?
4. How are the corporate scandals connected to Bush? He has nothing to do with those.
5. Bush's tax policies have been a huge success. Government revenue is skyrocketing upward, the deficit is shrinking, and more Americans work than have ever worked before. Our economy is great!
6. Christian conservatism is the blueprint of our Fathers--our Father who is in Heaven, and the Founding Fathers of this great and wonderful constitutional republic we are so blessed to live in. Most Americans support the principles of Christian conservatism. If the GOP embraces those principles, just like Reagan did, our candidate will win in 2008, and the GOP will retake Congress. That's a promise.

11:33 PM  

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